{"id":4662,"date":"2014-09-20T17:58:16","date_gmt":"2014-09-20T17:58:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/2014\/09\/20\/patrickat-gregxb-patrickat-gregxb\/"},"modified":"2014-09-20T17:58:16","modified_gmt":"2014-09-20T17:58:16","slug":"patrickat-gregxb-patrickat-gregxb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/2014\/09\/20\/patrickat-gregxb-patrickat-gregxb\/","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/patrickat.tumblr.com\/post\/97978614948\/gregxb-patrickat-gregxb-ktobermanns\">patrickat<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/gregxb.tumblr.com\/post\/97938288090\/patrickat-gregxb-ktobermanns\">gregxb<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/patrickat.tumblr.com\/post\/97937324423\/gregxb-ktobermanns-baldelfmage-why-do\">patrickat<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/gregxb.tumblr.com\/post\/97936862585\/ktobermanns-baldelfmage-why-do-fantasy\">gregxb<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/ktobermanns.tumblr.com\/post\/97936134255\/baldelfmage-why-do-fantasy-worlds-always-have\">ktobermanns<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a class=\"tumblr_blog\" href=\"http:\/\/baldelfmage.tumblr.com\/post\/93602318494\/why-do-fantasy-worlds-always-have-to-include-real\">baldelfmage<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>why do fantasy worlds always have to include real world misogyny and sexism<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>and racism<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Because some of the best fantasy serves as allegory for the real world.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Why can\u2019t good fantasy serve as an example of the kind of world we could have instead of reflecting all the real world\u2019s prejudices? Maybe some of us are sick of fantasy worlds where we\u2019re to accept that dragons and elves exist but the presence of POC, gay people, and gender equality are too far fetched to be believable.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m not saying it can\u2019t, but it sounds to me like you don\u2019t want dramatic storytelling, you just want wish-fulfillment. I don\u2019t endorse any of these practices in real life, but they exist. Good fiction, some of the best fiction reflects all the goods or ills of society and shines a spotlight back on it.<\/p>\n<p>Take, for example, George R.R. Martin. He doesn\u2019t endorse these things in real life, but I think the reason his characters resonate with so many people is because of how real they are. And you have characters like Arya, Dany, etc that are overcoming this and proving they are among the most badass people on the planet.<\/p>\n<p>Conflict drives a story. A story without conflict is boring, and boring is the worst thing a story can be.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>A story can have conflict and drama without relying on racism and sexism to be the source of it.\u00a0 These are not essential elements of \u201cdramatic storytelling,\u201d they are some of the most common and easy tropes out there that authors use.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>See: David Weber<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>patrickat: gregxb: patrickat: gregxb: ktobermanns: baldelfmage: why do fantasy worlds always have to include real world misogyny and sexism and racism Because some of the best fantasy serves as allegory for the real world. Why can\u2019t good fantasy serve as an example of the kind of world we could have instead of reflecting all the &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/2014\/09\/20\/patrickat-gregxb-patrickat-gregxb\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\"><\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[51,135],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4662"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4662"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4662\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4662"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4662"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.firechildren.net\/lightfire\/iamthefirechild\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4662"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}